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Oct 15, 2019

Just a week after a district court judge rejected claims that Harvard University intentionally discriminates against Asian American applicants, Julie J. Park, associate professor of education at the University of Maryland, College Park, talks with hosts Jon Fansmith and Lorelle Espinosa about what this decision means for the future of diversity in higher education.

They also discuss why Asian American students’ experiences don’t always fit with the “model minority” stereotypes and what institutions can do to serve students from diverse backgrounds.

Later, Lorelle and Jon talk about the Supreme Court’s upcoming hearing on President Trump’s decision to end the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals policy and how the higher education community is responding. The court will hear the case Nov. 12.

This episode is brought to you by the generous support of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.


Here are some of the links and references from this week’s show:

Conversation with Julie J. Park

Race on Campus: Debunking Myths with Data, by Julie J. Park

An Uneven Playing Field: The Complex Educational Experiences of Asian Americans
(Higher Education Today, Aug. 21, 2019)

Race and Ethnicity in Higher Education: A Status Report

Judge Upholds Harvard's Admissions Policies
(Inside Higher Ed, Oct. 7, 2019)

Statement by ACE President Ted Mitchell on Harvard University Admissions Case Ruling

Students for Fair Admissions, Inc. v. Harvard University Resource Page

Issue Brief—The Harvard Admissions Case: Reactions to the Judge’s Ruling

DACA in the Supreme Court

Supreme Court to Review DACA Program Protecting Young Undocumented Immigrants
(The Washington Post, June 28, 2019)

ACE, 43 Other Associations Submit Amicus Brief Urging U.S. Supreme Court to Uphold the Legality of DACA


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Lorelle Espinosa is ACE’s vice president for research, where she is responsible for developing the association’s thought leadership and research agenda.

Jon Fansmith represents ACE and its members on issues related to the federal budget and appropriations process, with a particular focus on student aid.